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>> i agree that would really be strong evidence. i agree completely on that point. i agree in the absence of that in the face of the refusal to allow the key witnesses to come forward, the house of representatives is allowed to draw reasonable inferences from the testimony they do have. and given the number of people that knew exactly what was going on, that the aid was being withheld and there was a connection to the bidens and burisma, the house is able to, i think -- this would be in a criminal case and certainly an impeachment setting, they are allowed to draw reasonable inferences from th...

Any other individuals in the question. he's referring to roger stone. rick gates testified that roger stone talked to the president about wikileaks. you may say at issue is the president's wording, i do not recall. why is it difficult to disprove that statement? >> it's difficult because you have to produce evidence -- let me back up. in a normal criminal case, in a normal criminal case, when someone is accused of perjury or obstruction of justice, in a setting they said, i do not recall, the government will have to come forward with evidence, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that was false...

What do you think of them moving towards this language? >> as you know, i've said this on your show many times. i think the democrats should have moved here earlier. i think there is a very strong case on bribery. it certainly isn't required under the constitution. abuse of power, if you go back to the old dplienglish system, certainly enough grounds for removal. but i think bribery is important to make the case to the public as to how serious the abuse was. and, again, what you're trying to do in any impeachment setting or impeachment scenario, brianna, you are persuading the middle third of ...

Tweets from the whistleblower's attorney including this one from 2017 hashtag who has started as one falls two more will take their place, hashtag rebellion hashtag impeachment referring to administration employees who defied the white house and take a look at this showing this picture documents from previous presidential impeachment setting next up donald trump. adding that the crew would occur in many steps and we will get rid of him, a reference to donald trump. >> very interesting when all those previous tweets did breaking yesterday, much more to come on it. some more on this sad story, f...

And implied that himself personally blocked sondland from testifying on capitol hill. what's happening at the white house? >> a lot of president ts tried to block congress in impeach. settings to the point that was just made by jake in fact one of the arguments of impeachment against nixon that was passed out of the house judiciary committee and he resign eed alleged he obstructed justice by refusing to cooperate so this is in fact a precedent that if a president goes too far in trying to resist a congress then they can get in trouble and impeachment setting. the kangaroo court is yet to be up...