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Wanted to be seen as ben factors. i like that system. i think it fills our needs much better. >> you want to fulfill the ego through the manifestation of the greatness of the science and not the ego through the accumulation of a bunch of money. >> those motivations dovetail well with what i think we need, what the world needs and there are other models and answers as well that i think are very promising. some of them are already bearing fruit. collaborations between drug companies, and non-profit organizations such as the gates foundation. he knows something about a good business model, right?...

>> you've got to the right place. >> we should repeal a law in 1980 that fostered the cozy relationship between pharmaceutical companies and universities. put the companies in the driver's seat. that law should be resgleeld if we repeal that law would w.h.o. would be in charge of medical debate? >> that's something we would decide. the system we had before 1980 worked quite well, a system under which which developed penicillin, polio vaccine t.worked really well. these -- these modalities that were developed by researchers who often refused to take a patent on it. jonah salk would not take a p...