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Libya several times as well. you have been with our troops who have been at war for 10 years. why do you think these myths still exist? >> well, i would say that the urban elites and media elite doesn't spend much time with the military and they certainly don't enlist in the military in anywhere near the percentages that they used to. today, for example, there are just 14 stanford undergraduates in rotc. in year 1956 there were 1100. so, those 1100 people had a first-hand acquaintance with the i will terri our elite undergraduates don't today. jenna: if you don't have acquaintance with the mil...

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Lives. and it seems they seem to have some kind of closure now, jon. jon david piper reporting live from tripoli. david, thank you very much. jenna: so what we just heard from david is the libyans are confirming the death of moammar gadhafi, but we do not have official confirmation from the white house or the state department. jennifer griffin is keeping an eye on things life from the pentagon, so what are american officials saying about gadhafi's death at this time? >> reporter: well, so far they're saying nothing. we can report that the libyan prime minister called u.s. officials, presumably...

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