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Places in michigan, in wisconsin, in pennsylvania, was a bad luck message. and the reason that donald trump is president-elect right now, will be president on january 20th, is because he went into places in places in ohio, in youngstown. this is a ancestrally democratic place. these are not the conservatives who rallied around ronald reagan and jack kemp 30 to 40 years ago. these are people who used to be democrats. these are workers. these are laid-off workers. these are blue collar people and they're the people who rallied around donald trump. and i think one of the reflations of the campaig...

That's not the way that peaceful transitions of administrations work in our great democracy. >> conway also dismissed the impact of the sanctions, suggesting members of the russian military intelligence service do not operate within the u.s. >> i've been reading all the news reports about these retaliations, these sanctions put forward by president obama and that administration. some of them seem largely symbolic. the gru doesn't really travel here, doesn't keep its assets here. >> that comment drew that response from president obama's former ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul. quote, this i...

From the same constituents that voted these folks into office? >> well, it's a great question. that's what republicans are grappling with. there are so many elements, whether it's tax law, of obamacare, or the health care benefits, if you're taking health care benefits away, that's not going to sit well. now, i was just -- i spent the holidays in williamsport, pennsylvania, the middle of trump country. people are excited about a trump presidency, unlike many people in the washington beltway. however, if you're not going to be keeping your campaign promises and taking benefits away. if this rep...

Drum beat. but in presidencies, you have to deal with what you're being confronted with and they're being confronted with. >> it seems like republicans hardly criticized the president's actions at all. they may say, hey, we don't agree with what he's been doing with russia for the last eight years, but they didn't have a problem with his actions. that suggests to me there's political pleasure on republicans. >> and traditionally, you took the incoming republican president being skeptical of this stuff out of it. in general, there's evidence that russia tried to hack e-mails, you would find cer...

Showman, and that might get him through this. i don't think -- but he's not going to be able to reverse historical trends. let's be honest about this. the exportation of jobs was happening well before barack obama or even nafta, this is a multi-decade-long process here. so of one hand, he has these sky-high expectations that george will is talking about. on the other hand, he does have an uncanny ability to take credit for things and be a showman and maybe that will get him through a little bit. >> i think this is a much bigger question here about who the republican party and who the conservat...