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Country. >> yes. >> and custom border patrol, i.c.e. says we need a wall, we need a wall. i don't think we need a wall from sea to shining sea and i will not support that but i will support where the experts say we need this for border security. >> the democrats agree with you. >> well, they agree in words but they don't agree in action. >> $25 billion. >> wait a minute, they walked away from that. >> they walked away because of the add-ons mark meadows was writing, family reunification and things about legal immigration. >> those didn't get in there. it was a little over $5 billion for the wa...

It lost ted kennedy's seat in massachusetts. nevertheless, obama stayed focused. he stayed the course because he paid attention to his base. i'm going to shock you here by applauding the president for doing that and wish president trump had done so sooner. i don't think there's anything wrong with the president of the united states, whose number one responsibility is national security and proekt tecting the american people and our sovereignty to shut down the government over this, blame or no blame. >> it wasn't just the base that wanted health care reform when obama came in, but i'll tell you...

I keep pushing you men and women, maybe the christmas spirit will make a difference or maybe you'll see, you can't rely on the president. i don't mean it as a criticism, i mean it as an observation. you guys have to do the job for yourselves and then see him as his proper role, which is not directing legislation. it's to sign it or not sign it. let me ask you about something else in terms of how the president complicates the process. this report out that the president finds out about the cohen charges, right, he doesn't like it. understandable. what's not understandable is that he goes to his ...

Sentence, because they put $25 billion up but that was in exchange for daca program that actually worked and gave them a pathway to citizenship. >> right. >> we're looking at a red herring. this wall is a $5 billion red herring. there are a few things. why are we paying for this wall, when the president of the united states and everyone else were going on the campaign trail and chanting build the wall and who is going to pay for it, mexico. why can't niger and every other republican come up before you simply saying that was a lie. the president lied about that. that is coming out of your pocke...

Trade deficit to their favor, $600 billion in intellectual property theft, and then the's t espionage and theft of military grade secrets. >> nobody's arguing, but it's how you address and what you do with it. >> if president trump or a president doesn't stand up at this point in time in our nation, when are you going to do it? wait for another four years? >> i understand the timing. it's about the tactics and the plan. >> i'm proud of what he's doing. >> tactics and plan matter to him. we'll see what he lays out. >> you agree. your tactics and mine might be different than his. >> i don't know...