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To about five times the national average. the whole region has felt the impact, especially the city's jail. the hamilton county justice center. >> the population has gotten a lot more dangerous. we are holding on to the worst of the worst. gun violence in cincinnati is a problem. it's a big problem. the number of people that are incars rated in here have shown gun violence in some way, shape, or form. >> most of the 1300 men and women in the jail are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial for the resolution of their cases. male inmates charged with murder are housed together in four s...

With me to talk about this. he was in a vip section. he had some expectation of privacy. should he simply maybe not have gone? >> i think that's the answer to the question, deb. i get it's a vip section. i don't care what section it is. when you're during the trial for your life, when you could be incars rated for the rest of your life, stay out of the spotlight. i understand there's no jury. it's the judge, the judge will make a decision, and will predicate the decision on the facts that came in that courtroom. but you don't need to bring undue attention to yourself or otherwise undo a lot of...

Is right now releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants who have been slated for deportation because they say they can't afford to hold them. what do you think of that? >> i think the president has to act in the interests of the country and that means if we need an aircraft carrier in the gulf, and i believe we do, i thought we needed one more, then he should do it. i think if there are people who are incars rated, he should make sure we're able to keep them in jail. look, again, it's politics. it is okay, how do we do something that will get a headline make it look like the terrible republicans...

Washington, d.c. says raymond davis has diplomatic immunity since he was there. he was working for the u.s. consulate and holding a diplomatic passport. now, here's today's developments. you have senator john kerry. he's visited islamabad. actually now on a plane on the way home. he went to try to get davis released. it was a very quick visit, already on his way back home and just this morning the u.s. justice department announced a criminal probe into the killings that has triggered this mess overseas so the question of who davis is, his status, if you will, came up today at the state departm...

The u.s. prosecuted him, he went to jail and served time in a georgian prison. the point being in the case of something that can be skcon tru as not self defense but a murder, diplomatic immunity doesn't necessarily have to be invoked in the sense if there's an agreement between the pakistanis and the americans to let this proceed. that's not happening right now. >> that's one of the big questions. you mentioned that the georgian diplomat in the situation in washington, d.c. now we know the situation is flip flopped with the american in pakistan. it's not clear exactly who davis is in terms of...