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The party of the working class. >> i know politics, and every election is about fixing the problem we have. i think oprah, not that she's a serious candidate, because she doesn't want to be probably, is empathy. right now we have a president who has no empathy for regular people and their problems. he doesn't connect with pain. he doesn't feel the pain of the people he makes fun of. he has no empathy. that's oprah's strength. i've watched her for decades. she connects with women, what vr their ethnic background, whatever the gender is, she connects with people's real challenges in life. that's...

After the next thing. >> you're raising really good points. >> they never end. >> sure. but in fairness, this is a counterintelligence investigation. >> yeah. >> this is about fundamental questions about, you know, did americans cooperate with a foreign government? after all -- >> it's a great question. there's been no hard evidence of a trump person involving themselves in fixing this election campaign. has there been any evidence of that involvement? >> i've seen allegations and not evidence. you're absolutely right. >> i think we got to stay where we're at on this. anyway, innocent until pr...