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Time, and if you look back, this is one of these interesting inflection points, you know, going back to 1985 with the kidnapping of the dea agent and then look at 2010 at the falcon lake incident involving david and tiffany hartley, and now here we are in 2023. i think what the cartel at least specifically the gulf cartel is trying to do now is a little bit of pr spin. they recognize the power of the media, and they understand how this has resonated inside the united states, and like i said earlier, the scrutiny on this i have not seen since the 2010 incident at falcon lake. >> josh, what do y...

That they do not believe that this is sincere, that this is exactly what fred was mentioning. perhaps a way to try to diffuse a lot of the scrutiny that has come upon this group. we know that there have been a number of u.s. officials saying that the american government should be sending troops over into mexico to combat this cartel. that has obviously caused widespread condemnation from mexican officials nlkd d including the mexican president. they're causing all of this widespread attention, i think they're trying to make that go away. >> there have been calls, lindsey graham and others for ...

They apparently called the clinic and said that they were running late. as they swrd entered mexico around 9:1020 it appears they drove around for two hours, they were tailed and engaged by members of this cartel. it is worth pointing out that a source tells me that there's no indication that they were doing anything wrong, that they were there for criminal purposes. authorities still want to piece together this time line. >> josh, stay with us, i want to bring in the executive director of the ontick center for protective intelligence and author of the book "ghost confessions of a counterterro...

Eastern plane. senior -- what phil mattingly is in warsaw for us tonight. senior chief international correspondent crystal ward is in kyiv. let's start with phil and clarissa. so phil, what is the white house saying tonight about the significance of this trip? >> you know anderson, the symbolism was carefully calibrated for maximum effect and a critical moment, inflection points, some white house officials have framed this moment in this war as the message that you heard from president biden both intentional and steadfast. but what has been most interesting is my conversation with white house ...

- one of the clearest inflection points in that post election period for giuliani is that famous press >> one of the clearest inflection points in that inflection points in that post-election period for giuliani is that famous press conference at the republican national committee. >> good afternoon.totally >> i mean, this is, i think, thh clearest picture americans have gotten of rudy giuliani totally detached from reality. this, to me, is the button to that rise and fall that we talk about over giuliani's public life.becaus >> did you all watch "my cousieo n'vinny?" you know the movie?omen it...