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It not politically. not to serve his interests or the interest of his party but the interest of full disclosure and the america -- the americans citizens' ability to read for themselves. when we hold information back, we insult the american public. they have a right to see it. that's what democracy is all about. you can't have democracy without information. so we need more disclosure and fewer likes. >> sean: last word, andy. >> two years, two years, put it out. put it out. two years. >> sean: is rod rosen stein conflicted, considering it was his doj, fbi, and they're the ones that we find out...

He shouldn't do it to serve his interests, but the interest of full disclosure and the american citizens' ability to read for themselves. when we hold information back, we insult the american public. and they have a right to see it. that's what democracy is all about. you can't have democracy without information. so we need more disclosure and fewer leaks. >> sean: last word, andy. >> two years. put it out. put it out. two years. >> sean: is rod rosenstein conflicted in this considering it was the doj, fbi, they have people leaking and he's appointing mueller and he signed the last warrant, is...

And put an end to this. >> bill: when the police talk about the delicate balance they're trying to ride now between giving out information and holding information back, they don't want to spoil the investigation now, they had two press conferences on the scheduled and canceled both of them until yesterday. there were two ways to think about that. either they did not have much information, or they knew exactly what they were doing and did not want to tip their hand to someone else. rob, do you think it was the former or the latter? >> i think they know what they're doing. they have an enormous ...

Debates or anything else material that was the product of a hack. have you entertained of doing that with your opponent, have you suggested -- >> information was hacked about your opponent that was helpful to you -- >> that's a great point. >> would you use it in an ad or pledge not to use it. >> i think that would be wrong to use it in an ad. >> very hard to put information back in a bottle. one of the problems today with the fake news is none of us remember where we got our last piece of information from. that's an idealistically great approach but i don't think it will be practical in real ...

These applications already substantially undermine the president's narrative and that of his proxies. and it seems to me very likely if we get below the tip of the iceberg into the submerged parts and more is revealed, it will get worse, not better. but it would also potentially be dangerous to disclose additional information because some of this obviously pertains to ongoing investigative activity and intelligence sources and methods and that's why the government kept the information back which means that we'll be in a posture of asymmetric political warfare with the president free to make up...