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Very well. it has been a moving target particularly in the early months going from january 2020 throughout the first year. you know, understanding the virus, and how it transmitted and having to make recommendations in realtime when you don't have all the information, and it's so easy and true. if we knew in january and early february the things that we learned over months and a year about the virus, we certainly would have done things differently. and that's really one of the things you have to deal with. you have to deal with the information you have and make your best judgment at the time. ...

Pulling troops out of kyiv as the fighting is raging on throughout this war torn rage. >> brian: pushed out of kyiv. this time dedicating and honor to soldier who famously helped defend snake island from russian attacks using explicative. >> steve: griff jenkins is live on the ground in kyiv. i know you are going to talk more about the guy from snake island. then we thought they were dead and then we heard prisoner of war and now a prisoner exchange and he is out. >> that's right. and, look, that's the nature of covering a war. the information changes. there is a lot of difficulty in confirmin...

As information changes, our recommendations are going to change because we want you to have the best most current recommendations based on the latest information. and the information in terms of boosters changed. early on the evidence was showing those who were above 65 were at the greatest risk, and increasing risk of hospitalization and death the further out they were from vaccination, but younger people were still pretty well protected. well, over time we're still seeing high numbers of hospitalizations and death, but we're seeing so much spread in communities. we're seeing that on the rise...

Challenge with covid and with any new emerging infectious disease is that you want recommendations to be based on science and as the science changes, you want to be able to change those recommendations. what you have to do is set up the public for that and say here is what we're recommending now as information changes, our recommendations are going to change because bewe want you to have the best most current recommendations based on the information and the information changes early on the evidence showed those above 65 were the greatest risk and increasing risk of hospitalization and death th...

It's optimistic that cases are going down. i would agree it is always concerning that, until people get fully vaccinated, until policies are consistent, we are always vulnerable to another surge, especially am months is it the persistently unvaccinated people. >> we've got to admit the information has been quite confusing from the experts at the cdc and beyond about whether this is the last wave. before delta, the cdc was telling us we didn't have to wear mass ksz anymore. the president wupz there at the white house celebrating the fourth of july. where are we standing right now? should we sto...