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We've got clinton. i feel we keep pointing back to nixon particularly because this feels more like watergate than the clinton impeachment. but as someone who's been on the other side of the republican attack mission, on advising hillary clinton, how much information do you have the current information environment means that facts can come out, that people are persuadable, that the 40% of the country that continues to approve him can be brought to the other side? >> naively probably more than you think. >> i am surprised by that answer. >> because not to the point where this 18% is going to go ...

I think the main difference is the president now has fox primetime and that allows his supporters to live in this alternate fact world and, frankly, i think if richard nixon had had fox primetime, he would have never been forced to leave office. that's what we're up against, an information environment in which you can live in a world devoid of facts and that's a world, frankly, that is very suitable for a president like this who doesn't have much adherence to the facts. >> so if you plan to counter that by putting out what you see as the factual record spoken through the witnesses, now we turn...

To live in the alternate fact world. and frankly i think if richard nixon had had fox protective placement primetime he would have never been forced to leave office. that's what we're up against, you know, an information environment in which you can live in a world devoid of facts and that's a world frankly that is very suitable for a president like this who doesn't have much adhereens to the facts. >> adam schiff saying it's fox news primetime that's the fundamental between now and then. that if richard nixon had had fox primetime he wouldn't have been forced to leave office. i find it fascin...

Primetime and that allows his supporters to live in this alternate fact world and, frankly, i think if richard nixon would have had fox prime time, he would have never been forced to leave office. that's what we're up against, an information environment in which you can live in a world devoid of facts and that's a world, frankly, that is very suitable for a president like this who doesn't have much adherence to the facts. >> so if you plan to counter that by putting out what you see as the factual record spoken through the witnesses, now we turn to what's happening in court where you've made s...

And publicly, and it's almost like, well, he's not keeping it secret. maybe it's not so bad and conditions the information environment especially on the right to adapt to that argument. never seen anything like this in american history, and all of a sudden his supporters on the right will start making those defenses. and the glue that holds this together is, frankly, just hatred for the other party. that drives everything. until republicans -- and the media -- until republicans think that what trump is doing is worse than what they see in the democrats and in the media, they will stick with th...