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If you actually listen to many of the journalists who are very high ranking in this particular space, the folks who have really done a good job of bringing this kind of information forward, they will tell you we're more than a little bit spooked. that's not moving in the direction that it should be. in fact, frankly, i think a lot of what you heard from snowden not really coming down on either side of a lot of complicated issues there really supports their view. you can understand why they're spooked. the very a members of congress who say why didn't he come to us instead of "the guardian" als...

This was seen as cavalier. when we heard about this to begin with, that there was an unsecured server, frankly, we looked at each other and said, who does that? what rules even apply to that? and then senator burr, they were asking us to take a look at it, and we did, with the state department i.g. >> tucker: a scandal then and a scandal now. mr. mccullough, thank you for joining us. >> i appreciate it. >> tucker: we are joined now by brit hume. britt, i don't know if you heard that, but now that the passions of the campaign have cooled, it's over, and we can look at this in the clear light of...