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Direction. you can't really show leadership if everybody is already moving in the direction you want information go. that's not leadership that's going with the flow. >> you have to connect with the people you are leading. >> what do i do that is right? right for the country, not right for me politically. >> that's a look at the new yahoo! news 13 part series that's out today called "when presidents lead." joining us now is the editor and chief of yahoo! news and one of the historians featured in the story, presidential historian doris concerns goodwin. she's out with a new book "leadership in...

Should want to do as part of the process setting up the tv. abby: of course. >> samba, to their credit they offered all of these disclosures online but not on the tv. abby: what do you want to do if you don't want to be watched? >> you have to undo that look and see if your ts is on this list. a bunch of them. phillips is on there can you look up your make and model and see if it has the samba tv interactive and undo that thing. or you might be the one of a very few people that would say oh, no, i want that. i don't want my cell phone being sold over and over again to more people. i don't want...

Documents surrounding the memo. from what i've seen so far, i share in most americans' concerns about the politics being played at some of the highest levels of the fbi and the d.o.j. the president called adam schiff a liar and a leaker. >> well, look. a lot of the information we know that adam schiff and his staff were involved in, there is no reason for republicans to let that information go. that's coming from democrats and staffers on the hill. he have one in the town knows, if you tell someone on the hill something, it will be a couple of minutes. >> are you saying that it is only democ...

>> okay. >> so these reports were being produced on a regular basis, every few weeks. every few months. he would prepare, chris steele, would prepare a new report, which he would give to the people who were paying him, fusion gps. fusion gps would then want to tell the lawyer for the clinton campaign, who he's representing, what information was being collected. and then that information was then being given to the campaign. the way that it was being given is what we really don't understand. how high up in the campaign did that information go, we don't really know. but like you said, the point ...

If you can control 99% of the white house, that's a victory in this particular white house, to have information go through him. at least for him to feel like he's in the loop, and that he's vetted what's reached the president's desk. >> nancy, stay with us. i want to bring in david and paul. paul, you worked in the clinton white house. this is the way most white houses work. >> it came out of the military for eisenhower, chief of staff, military position. process matters a lot. this president seems to have little regard for process. i think what general kelly is doing is very important. the mo...