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>> carey, mueller would not have made this deal with flynn and allowed flynn to plead guilty to what he pled, if mueller didn't already know what flynn had to offer about other people up the food chain, correct? >> no, that's right. that's how this process works in terms of the information that flynn would have had to already have provided to the special counsel's office so that they have a road map for what information he has available to him. it's so important to note that michael flynn was charged with one count of making false statements. and yet in the information itself, the document tha...

>> carey, mueller would not have made this deal with nine if mueller didn't already know what flynn had to offer about other people up the food chain, correct? >> no, that's right. that's how this process works in terms of the information that flynn would have had to already have provided to the special counsel's office so that they have a road map for what information he has available to him. it's so important to note that michael flynn was charged with one count of making false statements. and yet in the information itself, the document that lays out the basis for that claim, there were seve...

New york times." but on the information itself, i think it shows how a good-faith prosecutor cannot keep narrowly to russian influence on the election as his mandate because the whole financial web is so interconnected. a prosecutor who wanted to know whether there were, for example, russian payments being made to officials in the campaign would want to see if there's a pattern or practice within the flynn group, for example, of getting covert payments from foreign governments. so i think it shows how i think the money chain is going to be followed, and it's potentially quite serious. >> well,...

To begin. walter dellinger. sam buell is a professor of law at duke university, a former federal prosecutor. lead prosecutor in fact for that enron task force which has some overlap with some of what mueller is doing now. and michael isikoff, a chief investigative reporter for yahoo news. walter, folks are just digesting "the new york times" reportrepor folks at home my want to understand what does it mean when we say this is one of the first document requests that mueller has sent to the white house. >> well, it means a couple of things. one, i think, ari, in a later segment, we're going to w...

We're saying here. we are taking actions. the democratic party's taken actions. the democratic party is showing leadership. donald trump is sitting on the sidelines clearly to try to help protect himself and protect those at the top 1%. that's the reason we have to continue these investigations while we cannot sit idly by and make sure we get to the bottom of what's happening with russia and trying to interfere in our elections. >> michael, i have to ask you about another portion of that report though that says in no uncertain terms that there was a sense within the obama administration that h...