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Want to spring a perjury trap." and there's no justification for using the grand jury for that. >> we promised it was not a conspiracy. you're reaction to what's happened today. we can go back to the district court judge or you can hit any of the issues we've been talking about. >> well, i'm chomping at the bit. in regard to judge ellis, having appeared before him a handful of times in the last five or ten years, i'm not surprised. and he was equally hard on mueller and manafort's lawyer and his legal team in regard to their head shaking and what have you. but he is a smart judge. i don't disa...

Like manafort and flynn and cohn because they want to flip them. they want to make them sing. as the judge put it in their statement, maybe even make them compose. i think i came up with that phrase. composing instead of singing. the only difference between this judge and other judges is this judge is completely and totally honest. he calls it the way he sees it. the amazing thing is he called him on it. he said, "you can't do that if you're a special counsel. you have to go after directly the evidence that's within your mandate. you can't be finding people, creating or exaggerating or coming ...

Virginia made statements. it says, "judge questions mueller's authority to prosecute manafort." judge t.s. ellis, who is really something very special, i hear from many standpoints, suggested the charges before the u.s. district court for the eastern district of virginia was just part of the mueller team's design to pressure mr. manafort to give up information on president trump. i've been saying that for a long time. it's a witch-hunt. >> well, let's review these developments with house intel committee with nunez. we have a lot to talk about with him. it's good to see you. t.s. ellis i know v...

You. but the judge wants to see the memo because he does not trust mueller and needs to render a decision. just based on the questioning, you may think he's leaning one way but go to other way. he did not issue an order. secondly, the hearing today in my opinion was really more about whether mueller -- okay, does he have jurisdiction or not? but then the other thing to notice is he had local counsel there from the eastern district. and i think if anything, the judge will say, "you can prosecute manafort if you want, but you've got to do it out of the eastern district." nobody wants to try a ca...

>> reporter: they pressed to see if they had found new evidence. >> sean: how about redakt being the rest of it. there is reaction and fox news contributor and author of the soon to be released best seller and the scheme to elect hillary clinton and frame donald trump. gregg jarrett, i have never in my life in the manafort case, heard a judge call mueller's team liars the way he called them out today and then go on to see what relation it has to do with the special counsel. you don't care about manafort's bank fraud. all you can is the information