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To the contrary, he says that's no problem, john. i'm stunned. as i listened to that tape, i can hear my own frustration come out where i feel i have failed to convince him based on solid evidence of the criminality that's going on. try to show that he's got a problem with me. >> some people are going to have to go to jail. i think i could, for one. then i tell him i think i've obstructed justice. >> let's talk about your obstruction of justice role. i don't see it. i don't see it. >> well, i've been a con -- i've been a conduit for information on -- on taking care of people out there whoa are...

>> you can tell someone to lie on your behalf, you can lie in order to divert investigators and prosecutors away from yourself, you can destroy documents. >> i think john dean was realistic, because he saw that the criminal laws applied to the president and everybody else, and that sooner or later, this was going to come out. >> i thought to myself, you know, you're in a heap of trouble. why this was difficult is because i had just gotten married, just weeks earlier. i have to make this cover-up work. i really have just sort of been, yeah, well, okay, if i got to pass that information on, fine...

Attempt to thwart an investigation. >> you can tell someone to lie on your behalf, you can lie in order to divert investigators and prosecutors away from yourself, you can destroy documents. >> i think john dean was realistic because he saw that the criminal laws applied to the president and everybody else, and that sooner or later, this was going to come it. out. >> i thought to myself, you know, you're in a heap of trouble. why this was difficult is because i had just gotten married, just weeks earlier. i have to make this cover-up work. i really have just sort of been, yeah, well, okay, if ...

I'm stunned. as i listened to that tape, i can hear my own frustration come out where i feel i have failed to convince him based on solid evidence of the criminality that's going on. try to show that he's got a problem with me. >> some people are going to have to go to jail. i think i could, for one. then i tell him i think i've obstructed justice. >> let's talk about your obstruction of justice role. i don't see it. i don't see it. >> well, i've been a con -- i've been a conduit for information on -- on taking care of people out there whoa are guilty of crimes. >> oh, you mean like the, the b...

>> there were probably many people who believe that what they were doing would enough on some level. >> an attempt to dwarf an investigation. >> you can tell someone to lie on your behalf or you can lie. you can destroy documents. >> john dean was realistic because he saw that the criminal law applies to the government and everybody else and that sooner or later, this is going to come out. >> i thought to myself why this was difficult because i just gotten married. it is my turn here. i had to make this cover up work. >> i really sort of been, okay, i got to pass that information on. fins p fi...