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Watch a lot of cnn, and i think the average person that's watching tv, no matter what channel they're watching they can't tell you the difference between iran and iran. was it hacked, was there surveillance, i think people are confused to what the real truth is because they've had so much information overload and we're all waiting to see when the other shoe is going to drop. >> who is responsible for that confusion? do you think that maybe you're responsible for that confusion, for trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense, s for defending the indefensible? do you think that ma...

Time to examine it and it's stored and available to them. they do it without suspicion or probable cause. isn't it un-american for our own government to gather all this information about us? now we find out that the government can get into the kitchen or the bedroom through something that when george arwall wrote it it sounded so fantastic to believe it. that watching a television that can be watching you. what upsets me, there's no out rage. it's oh, my god. there's no outrage. we have accepted the falsehood that the government can enhance national security by diminishing personal liberty. i ...

Information overload and all of that. and, you know, that's just where we are. i don't know if there is anything to do about it. but you have a suggestion or a remedy, i guess. and a part called anchoring which, of course, we relate to since that is our career. what can you do if you feel disoriented and dizzy? >> well, you know, what i really argue is that the proper governing unit for the 21st century is what i call the healthy community. the single family is too weak. the federal government is too slow to adapt. that's why i tell everybody my book has a theme song. i wish i bought it so whe...

Is it our fault? why are they so stressed out? how much of it is us? >> i do think there's a flood of information that is available, and for people who are interested, they are getting lost in it. and i think some of the social media obviously can start on one area and all of a sudden you find a lot of times, it's very inflammatory. there's a lot of anger. there's a lot of strong feelings, and i think that gets internalized. and it can add to feeling more stressed by the time you're finished, rather than just feeling more informed. >> it is information overload. i mean even though we're in the...

We now know that's not true. it's a crazy overestimate. the conscious mind can attend to about three things at once. >> information overload also leads to something we've all experienced, decision fatigue. it's why in nearly every picture, albert einstein is wearing a gray suit, why steve jobs always wore a black turtle neck and mark zuckerberg is almost always sporting his gray t-shirt. they didn't want to waste valuable energy making inconsequentialedne decisions a their clothes. >> if you're making a bunch of little decisions, like do i read this e-mail now or later? file it? do i forward i...