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All of this develop is when you're a reporter, a, you're skeptical of people in power, right? you get lied to all the time. i remember the first time i got lied to by an alderman, he looked me in the face and lied. i was like, he just lied to me. it is a radicalizing, important moment in the trajectory of being a reporter, right? you always care it carry it with you. statement you develop relationships of the rest where you can go to them and say, am i wrong, where are we on this? that relationship for trust is so gone here, seriously, that everyone is floating in a dark ocean where there's no...

All of this develop is when you're a reporter, a, you're skeptical of people in power, right? you get lied to all the time. i remember the first time i got lied to by an alderman, he looked me in the face and lied. i was like, he just lied to me. it is a radicalizing, important moment in the trajectory of being a reporter, right? you always care it carry it with you. at the same time, you do develop relationships of trust with individuals where you can go to them and say, am i wrong, where are we on this? that relationship for trust is so gone here, seriously, that everyone is floating in a da...

On the veracity of the wall street story. they basically were saying that at this stage there's nothing more to say. if there was an opportunity to further the story, it could happen later today some time. but as far as actually confirming or denying anything that was said in that story overnight, they wouldn't talk about that. all that we're doing really, i suppose, is telling you the technology that's in that system and the way it would normally operate. >> richard. >> guy, i'm not in any shape or form disagreeing or disputing what you said. but i'm going to put the opposite position. one of...

Happens and then suddenly everything happens. things are happening already. three years ago people didn't use social networks. now it's overflowing governments. we get used to the changes very quickly. ultimately we'll reprogram our own biology which is an information process. we have computer software process called genes. we need to update them. the idea is getting more and more powerful. the key point is intuition about the future is linear. it's a profound difference. >> the idea we'll have to augment our intelligence with computers, how do you see this? my view is, why can't we just contr...

I was like, he just lied to me. it is a radicalizing, important moment in the trajectory of being a reporter, right? you always care it carry it with you. statement you develop relationships of the rest where you can go to them and say, am i wrong, where are we on this? that relationship for trust is so gone here, seriously, that everyone is floating in a dark ocean where there's nothing to anchor or moor you against the crazy information. >> it is breaking down for a few reasons, right? one is that the normal information process in the white house is breaking down. >> totally. >> his own staf...