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Vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very people that mitt romney was dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe this guy can. maybe i'll hand the...

And now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very people that mitt romney was dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe ...

Democratic governance and has not been as good as democrats themselves had promised all along the way. that's an actual problem. there is an enthusiasm. if you look at where there has been tangible and new political enthusiasm in the process, i would include scott brown in that, when he first got elected. not now as much. it has not come from people getting excited about progressive ideas. >> hasn't been a chance. let's be honest. we -- the scale of our problems have not been met adequately yet. there is a jobs bill that is in the senate that is being obstructed by republicans. there are all k...

Mobilize political movements to get people to push to get congress and the president to pass jobs legislation, get more construction jobs and infrastructure building, which is not a bad thing for the economy. so, in that sense, helping people to organize, to push for more jobs is a good thing. what i think would be really interesting for a group like this to provide a way for people to figure out health care. that's what people unemployed need the most, what do you do? >> unemployed, 99 weeks of extended benefits, food stamps, in some states you can get cash and health care, look, we're giving...

Then the question becomes, where do you target? i would say education would be fundamental but in the end it's really about jobs with a living wage. >> infrastructure building. your support of that and a believer that drives growth and investment in communities? >> oh, yes. the last chapter in the book lays out 12 ideas. we don't have a monopoly on the truth, but these are 12 ideas that we come up with that we believe we have to embrace now if we're going to be serious about reducing and eradicating poverty. jobs with a living wage. there's great debate about this. but i'm all for raising the ...