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For example, you have heard the mayor and i talk about infrastructure, the infrastructure part of the stimulus has worked. there's absolutely no question about it. we can demonstrate in pennsylvania and other states around the union how it has produced good paying jobs on the construction sites and back in american factories. it has worked. we should be investing more money in our infrastructure right now. we need it, number one, and number two, it's the best job creator. >> if you look back in the 1930s, the money went to infrastructure. the bridges, the municipal buildings, the roads, those ...

Mayor and i talk about infrastructure, the infrastructure part of the stimulus has worked. there's absolutely no question about it. we can demonstrate in pennsylvania and other states around the union how it has produced good paying jobs on the construction sites and back in american factories. it has worked. we should be investing more money in our infrastructure right now. we need it, number one, and number two, it's the best job creator. >> if you look back in the 1930s, the money went to infrastructure. the bridges, the municipal buildings, the roads, those were all built with stimulus mon...

I think the mayor is absolutely right about the paralysis. i think the paralysis is driven mostly by partisanship and by the fall election. david walker of the peterson foundation said it best. we should still be investing in things that stimulate the economy and we can do that at the same time that we put together a long-term plan for deficit reduction. we can do both and we have to do both. for example -- and you have heard the mayor and i talk about infrastructure. the infrastructure part of the stimulus has worked. there's absolutely no question about it. we can demonstrate in pennsylvania...