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Distance themselves from trump completely. they're willing to disagree with him on this bill but not necessarily distance themselves from him and split from him in totality. and that is where i think his power remains, is that he's still is seen as the leader of the republican party and republican elected officials know that, so their hesitant to completely say i'm done with this guy, i don't want to hear anything he has to say on any topic. >> eugene, sonam, tia, we still have a lot of infrastructure summer ahead of us so i'm sure i'll see a lot of the three of us. thank you for your time. ...

Senator, god forbid, were to pass away tomorrow, the window for action is very small. >> absolutely. there could be some external problem that gets everybody talking about something else, some international crisis or something. they must get this done during infrastructure summer or it may well not happen. so time is of the essence. progressives are right to press as hard as they can. at fdr said to a labor leader, make me, push me. that's important right now. but it's also important to remember that politics is the art of the possible and if at the end of the summer they don't get everything ...

And everything they talked about is something that we need. we also, john, have to take into account where we are in this country, what our debt structure is. we're $28.5 trillion, we cannot continue to add on things that we can't pay for. >> kenya, we talked for a long time, a very long time, joked about infrastructure week. infrastructure week has given way to what i'm going to call hot infrastructure summer. this is going to take a while to get done. what's going to be the biggest challenge going forward for democrats in getting this second bill passed via reconciliation? >> well, essential...