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>> but you would not like to see isis fight back the -- >> i would like to see us beat isis. >> but right now, aren't you glad that the iranian-backed shia militia are beating down isis from the south -- >> it's so horrible it's hard not to say i'm glad. but because of the number of shia atrocities about to be created against the sunnis and create recruiting grounds for isis. >> just for all my friends inside the control room if kristol says anything that makes it sounds he's not glad isis is getting beat put down below, kristol, i'm for isis. >> benjamin hall is the author of the new book "in...

Shia militia, what we're ignoring are the underlying problems that allowed isis to thrive. this is saddam's hometown. this is a sunni hot land. and for shia militia to go in they will not be welcomed. the big problem, though with 25-year plan is that bombing them from the air has done a lot in terms of preventing their spread. they can't move and take more territory. but what they are doing, they're digging in. you know they cover every city they control with countless ieds and the more they're allowed to stay there, the more they do. i was on the front lines and inch by inch by perilous inch ...

Belonging to isis fighters. nbc has not been able to verify the video's authenticity. >> bill kristol, right now, the iranians are -- our allies the iranians marching north and actually doing a lot of boots on the ground work for us. >> iranian-backed shia militias. assist horrible situation and degenerating to the worst -- we have brutal terrorists on both sides slaughtering each other and that's where the middle east is descending to through large swaths of syria and iraq. and people can sit here and say, oh, well, let them kill each other. and that's true to a small degree. but it's like ha...

Looking for something else. and one of the defectors i spoke to said they go out and they're known as the most blood-thirsty ones. a lot of the westerners who go out to fight don't understand the koran. soy stand by the fact that it's an adventure and i'm looking for something worse. >> al hundred, that adventure getting more dangerous for a lot of members of isis who are actually seeing at least in iraq, their movement on the run. >> yeah i wanted to ask benjamin when we talks about the 25-year threat if the iranians can't counter, for the reasons that he just enumerated we're not going to in...

Victimization and partisan battling and -- they're going to be tired of it. also, this shows what kind of leader would she be. we can't just look at somebody's record. what kind of attributes do you have. are you somebody who believes the ends justify the means? are you somebody who will cut any corner who will raise whatever money you can to pad your foundation. those are things that go to what kind of leader she might be and she really didn't show the kind of attributes i'm looking for yesterday, to tell you the truth. >> rob fournier and bob franken, thank you so much. al hunt, stay with us...