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We're back with congresswoman tulsi gabbard. we're talking about the terrorist threats that are breaking right now, including the hunt for the mastermind in the slaughter at that university in kenya, 147 students massacred. mostly christians who had been separated from the muslims. as you know the president told tom freedman in the interview over the went alienated youths that are unemployed can be most vulnerable to the allure of terrorism. the suspect -- one of the key suspects in the kenyan terror attack was a law school graduate, the son of a kenyan government chief. how are these accompli...

Al shabab has been under pressure. they lost a leader. there's another leader that's at the top of the wanted list. these cross border operations -- remember going back to the west gate mall. this has been a threat, particularly to our allies in kenya. and i think you are going to continue to see it. i know that the white house is very focused. sources are telling us they have been meeting about this. there's a target list in materials of the leadership of al shabab that is continually updated. i expect you will see the administration looking to put pressure and work with the kenyans to put pr...

>> i think at some point when you warn people again and again in a civil -- in a civil war environment, they have responsibility personally to leave. i feel for these folks. you can't sit there in yemen and say i didn't know something bad was coming down. when you are asking foreign governments, including the indians to help there's one thing you have to consider. i hope they do. every time you go into that environment, if you are the indians, saudis or somebody else you are putting your own forces at risk. that's asking for a lot for a foreign goflt tovernment to say, we don't want to put our...

Almost completely captured by isis. the estimate is they control 90% of the camp. there are 18,000 palestinians refugees including 3,000 children, who have been living there in dire circumstances due to the ongoing conflict in syria. the u.n. says the hour has never been more dire for these people. the running gun battles across the neighborhoods are -- there is no food water, medicine. no ability to get aid in. the u.n. calling for a halt to the fighting. there's no indication that isis is listening to anybody. >> that's true. let's turn to the deadly terror attack in kenya. we are learning a...

Attack -- it quillwill be on them. this is the only way -- even unsophisticated people can kill people. we saw what happened in kenya where people with not a lot of money can carrying out deadly terrorist attacks. >> there was a shocking news coming out of britain. a 14-year-old and 16-year-old picked up for suspected terror activities. >> reporter: right. and the british authorities have not said exactly what those activities were going to be. but they said they picked them up over the weekend. this is in man chest erchester, which has been the scene of isis -- young people trying to travel o...