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A longstanding al shabab stronghold themselves knew they were going into a very rough patch of territory. they were going after a top al shabab leader. they have not said who they were looking for themselves ran into a to have firefight. they leave them don't know if they got the man they were after. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. now back to libya. our report he spoke exclusively today, she joins us now. what did she say to you? >> she defended her husband. said that she is an innocent man. she did admit that he was a member of al qaeda but she said, he left the organization in 1996...

Was attacked in '98, and that surveillance may have been in the '94 and '95 time period, and he disappeared 2000 before authorities raided his house, and at that time he was living in manchester in northern england and he has been on the run since and his trail has gone to afghanistan and other countries and eventually he ended up, we believe, in 2010 in libya where he has been living. >> do we know if he had any active role in the workings of al qaeda or any of the groups that are connected to them recently, since 2010, moving back to libya, if he had from that point any involvement? >> i am ...

Exceptionally detailed to figure out what went wrong. what sources need to be dropped away and who they can rely on again. >> how do you see this mission? do you see it as a failure in. >> no. i think it is a standard military operation. and using s.e.a.l. team 6, you come up on the coast. whether coming up by air or by boat. the s.e.a.l. teams have operated, they've gone on rescue missions in somalia before. they are comfortable operating in that area. they have platforms nearby from which to launch. i don't see that as interesting as the one in libya. and libya, of course, you've got a rendi...

We understand no fires were shot at him during his capture, but it appeared broad daylight, early morning, his wife witness to it. what kind of information could he offer up about al qaeda? >> he is believed to have moved back to al qaeda -- libya. and senior al qaeda leaders were setting operatives back to libya. he is believed to have been retired from active service, if you will, with al qaeda, but it was understood he is likely to have a good picture of al

The most relatable thing when we're in foreign environments. but talking about food, do you believe that gives you access into people that in news questions can't? >> everybody is proud of their food. there's nothing more political than who is eating, who isn't and what they're eating. also people tend to be very proud of their food. however luxurious or simple it might be, it is an expression of their it culture, their history, their -- it says something about them, what gives them pleasure, what their own emotional touch stones are. so people revealed themselves to me in extraordinary ways a...