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Terminating the contract of phil griffin and joe scarborough based on the unsolved mystery that took place in florida years ago? investigate. that was the president weighing in. now we want marc thiessen to weigh in. you've been right about all the news breaking this morning, north korea, taxes, and now matt lauer. your thoughts here, marc. >> my first reaction is first as a father of two daughters i'm glad that matt lauer and the sex predators are getting called out and exposed. hopefully it will make the world safer for my daughters when they enter the workplace but i'm struck how different ...

Can you feel -- these matters are complex. the emotions are not simple. she said something else, there's a reckoning going on. i want to see if there's a reckoning. firing matt lauer costs you money and prestige, but it's a lot easier than corporate change. do you make settlements anymore? what kind of channels and avenues do you have for women to express these things that don't put them at risk. >> i hear you. we are at the beginning of this. this is the beginning changes of this change. >> one thing to add, we don't know what nbc knew. >> we know they covered themselves in their statement. j...

And what a news organization will do is go back through all the footage they have and find out if -- they've done hundreds of shoots with trump over the years. find out if there's something potentially newsworthy. once they found that newsworthy item, then it goes to the producers of the show and the lawyers. listen, "access hollywood" is not technically a news organization. so, it is sort of overseen a little differently than nbc news. they have to assess whether they can air a piece of tape that was recorded privately between trump and the host. and so that takes discussions. that takes some...

>> anthony, do you think it would have been a lower level tape producer sort of person or an upper level, you know, executive or producer? >> well, here's the truth. the tapes go into a centralized system and everybody at that organization has access to it. and everybody has access to that tape. and, obviously, this is being discussed. it's discussed in the news room. everybody knows it's potentially in the system. so, once it goes to the legal department, there could be anybody in that organization and that's potentially hundreds of people that could have had access to that tape. >> you know,...

It's kind of like being on the record and off the record. trump and billy were having a conversation. they technically weren't rolling so they were technically, off the record. once the tapes were rolling with the segment, then it becomes on the record. so, he had have to make an assessment adds to whether they can air that tape, i believe, legally because it's a private conversation. there are rules that dictate private conversations. because qum access hollywood "is not technically a news organization, they're under different guidelines than news organizations. so, they decided to sit on it ...