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Questions, giving caveats. a lot for a journalist to do in this still. but the eyes are of those eyewitness eyewitnesss. >> a not of new tools available that didn't exist a decade ago. thank you for joining us from austin. coming up on the second part of "reliable sources" national public radio gets stung. we'll talk to james o'keefe, who orchestrated the undercover video that led to the outster of npr's chief executive. and remembering david broder. we heated the bathwater and gave kelly a cleaner ride to school. cooked the cube steaks and steamed the veggies. entertained dad, and mom, and ...

Very little. the blogger who got through to republican governor scott walker, msnbc went haywire and fox did very little. >> there is perspective that comes from a political perspective. and so that's -- that's a fact. but it doesn't change the problem that you have with the original piece by james o'keefe or the reaction by npr or public broadcast. >> alyssa shepherd when you called ron schiller and said is this basically true? is this wildly out of context? and he said, no, i did say these things. the tea party is a bunch of racists, islama phobes, weird evangelic evangelicals. did it make y...

Editorial decision-making process of npr. and, therefore to say that he reflects it or affects it, or alters it, is completely wrong. he doesn't, and that should be made clear. >> coming down to our last minute. you walked for npr, for pbs. in a time of soaring budget deficits, why should it get federal dollars? >> th it should get federal dollars because u.s. a public service in the main, and it needs to do as well as it does, and it could use more. i would love to see it separated from annual congressional debates. and set up through an endowment, but that hasn't happened, and it may not hap...

Seriously, we don't take you seriously. >> you're a controversial guy, taken on big targets. you certainly had an impact with the npr story. do you think the media has been fair to you in the npr story? >> i think it's been more fair. the main-stream media is starting to have more respect for us. we've shown the disdain for the americans in the tape. the tape is very powerful. the tape is very honest. stipulate cu the tape cuts to the core. >> there is one aspect in which the tape was not honest. this was a front group. a phrase you yourself used. i appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> than...

Tactics to get to the end. >> no, that's not what i said. investigative reporting is sometimes justified to go undercover. it's a form of guerilla theater, you're -- he's willing to meet with strangers tied -- they claim they get money from the muslim brotherhood, and he's willing to have a conversation in public. remember, no expectation of privacy. he's meeting with two strangers in a public place in a business meeting. his organization is funded with taxpayer dollars. >> i understand. obviously he doesn't know he's being videotaped. you have described yourself as a citizen journalist. look ...