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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:34:00 - Vimarsana News

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To the north. >> she had to have been propelled from that point. >> jody had to have been thrown or pushed to her death, he said, and likely from another spot entirely on those cliffs. he wasn't the only expert who saw it that way. >> the head and chest injuries are not consistent with someone that tumbled down the cliff face. >> dr. marianne clayton was the bergen county medical examiner who first ruled the circumstances of jody's death could not be determined. now, on second look, she said, the victim's wounds or lack of them told her something different, something vital. if jody had tumbled...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:24:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:24:00

He put it in the bag with the picnic items. it was just convenient. it was a convenient excuse for having that hammer. >> detectives asked if they could check out the drawer and the rest of stephen's house that night. he agreed. but as it turned out, something potentially far more telling was happening away from the action. >> and i said, look, mr. scharf, i'm your local police department. >> ted aaronburg was a local officer told to keep an eye on stephen scharf that night as detectives combed through his house. the officer says he began talking to stephen about what had happened to jody when...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:37:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:37:00

>> my mom was driving and my dad just hitting her with the bottom of his fist. and i was, like, begging him to stop doing it. >> he also remembered the last day of his mother's life. he was 10 and said his mother told his father that she didn't want to go out with him alone. >> she said, if i wanted to go out with you, i wouldn't be divorcing you. >> but where was the proof that stephen had planned to kill jody that night? well, there was the hammer in the picnic bag, but there was also testimony from this woman, one of stephen's old girlfriends. >> i even mentioned to my girlfriend that it wa...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:23:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:23:00

Each other, stephen said, to kiss and make up. >> and the spot where they went is not a spot you'd go to reconcile with anybody. >> detectives weren't buying the story for another reason. they had found something suspicious inside scharf's car, a bag filled with items you'd expect for a romantic picnic and one you would not, a hammer. >> oh, yeah, your wine, cheese, crackers, opener, claw hammer. i mean, if red flags are going up, they reached the top of the pole at that point. >> did you think that might be a murder weapon? >> yeah. i thought that might have been plan "a" and he didn't use it...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:45:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181125:06:45:00

Misinterpreted what his client said in his home just hours later. >> my client never said this wasn't an accident. >> and as for that hammer police thought was a weapon? >> the hammer was examined by the forensic experts. there was nothing found on that hammer. >> and the defense attorney pressed the medical examiner on her flip-flop, undetermined manner of death in '93, now it was a homicide? really? >> are you trying to say that you're learning from your mistakes on this case? >> you may call them mistakes, sir. i did the best i could in 1992 documenting what i had observed with mrs. scharf....