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78 minutes. that's how long the gunman was inside uvalde elementary school before police confronted him. >> what efforts were officers making to continue a break through, through that door or another door dead inside that classroom? >> none at that time. >> reporter: why was this decision made not to go in and rescue these children? >> again, the commander card barricaded subject and at the time there were no more children at risk. of course, it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision. >> a devastating acknowledgement, joining me now is commissioner ramsay. what went through your...

Including this one i would argue this doesn't stop with the incident commander. i have been in a lot of cities. one of the first things when you have a major city like this, you contact your bosses, you would make phone calls, a heads up, this is what you got why did they not challenge when police were making entry? >> i do want to ask you about that. we heard some officers in uvalde saying, well, they could have been shot. we know the shooter had in his possession an assault-style weapon that is very lethal. the amount factored into the decision not to go into that room as soon as possible? >...

Violence. 19 children and two teachers were killed in their elementary school classroom this weak. their families will be forever changed. but grief this morning is turning to fury. we are now learning that the police stood outside that classroom for nearly an hour, instead of confronting the gunman. >> like every other citizen in town, you know, we're thinking, hey, the police will do their job and get them out of there. after today hearing this information, it's like i guess i was wrong. had they gotten there sooner and somebody would have taken immediate action, we might have more of those ...

A good guy with a gun, versus a bad guy with a gun. that fallacy being exposed in this process allows for a different conversation at this point in time. to your point on capitol hill, senator chris murphy, they talk about this, his willingness to, i am willing to talk about everything. it doesn't need to be comprehensive, the fact that people are not asking for everything. are not standing there saying, this is going to be a panacea. they know there is not one singular answer to everything. one thing that struck me is talking about background checks, dismissive of them talking about automatic...