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The type of explosion -- explosive device that was used. all of those sorts of things. so i mean, i think the key thing to keep in mind is that we're now at the beginning of the investigation process and not the end. >> other key thing, madam secretary is that this is terrorism. right? >> well, it certainly is something that i would not rule out. the way it was carried out, the kind of device that was used, again, until we know the perpetrators, the people -- person or persons who were responsible, you don't know the derivation and do not their intent. i would not rule that out. >> right. clea...

Place at 1515 broadway where it would park, the guy would get out and take off. >> i wish we could go back and rerack to that video. you can see the image of a man right here. watch him, taking off his shirt. apparently, they believe this is the suspect right there. he has a red shirt on underneath, a dark shirt over the top. here's the thing, there were 32 cameras in this vicinity of new york city or more than that, i believe, they've looked at 32. there are 82 cameras between 34th and 51st street thankfully but can they find this guy now, brian? >> here's the thing. they know -- they have a ...

But there's some images out of the bomb and it's got an old timy clock, a couple of analog clocks. there it is right there. who does your gut tell you did this? >> my gut -- well, i could be totally wrong an hour from now. my gut tells me there's more of a lone wolf situation. and not an al-qaida inspired thing. now, here's what you don't know. what you don't know, you got three different kinds of situations. you got the al-qaida inspired done by a terrorist group. you got the lone wolf who is just a nut who knows what the motivations are. you got the third one that is a copycat, the one that ...

Some cracking and ends up, it turns out it was firecrackers. bottom line is if they had lined it up right and wired it correctly, it would have worked. >> yeah. now you're wondering, why would they park it right there in the middle of times square? apparently, a taliban group that's already taken responsibility although authorities have said yeah, we don't really think that was even taped. that was probably taped before it, also another guy called the police and also e-mailed some various news outfits taking responsibility but they think that could be just a poison pen guy trying to smear some...