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Can you find it in any way you view the way your city should be policed that this chief who would issue this report to you and to the public that you find inconsistent, that you see holes in, under a situation like this where you needed the best possible offer to the public of the truth as we know it, can you see any reason that he should be continuing in this job and is there any reason you see tonight why you should not fire him tonight? >> i stated that i think it should be reviewed by law enforcement experts. that's the point that i think. i need to have facts. you've pointed out some ques...

Great job before, but you've reached a point of this particular chief is now dysfunctional in that position. >> i agree. and wesh reported tonight when they broke this story about the commission vote lines that if the city manager, mr. bonaparte, does not make a move, then he is somehow held accountable, i guess, under their charter for anything bill lee does from now on. i heard his very measured approach in speaking to you tonight. but i ca iim true, if what wesh is reporting is true, i can't imagine why in the world he would want to risk his credibility or his job trying to be polite to bil...

About it. he had no idea that that kind of furor would come right to his city commission tonight. he had no idea that he would be the subject of this national talk show tonight. he had no idea that people like al sharpton and mr. thompson here would be at his door asking real questions. and so he thought he could send home someone who had killed, shot in the chest, a 17-year-old innocent black teenager, that he could send him home that night and everybody could sleep well. >> in the history of this territory, i've seen even more obscure cases rise to the level of bringing down a police commiss...

Information do you need to understand that a police chief has lost his bond, his trust with the community? how much information do you need to understand that he's incapable of running this police department in an effective way and partnering with all of the communities who he's sworn to serve and protect. so i don't know how much information you need for that. at least there should be a suspension until -- until all of the facts are in. at the very least. he has enough information for that. >> mark, what we learned in police work 30 years ago is community relations is as important as crime co...

Under the people who believe. remember, these stand your ground laws are the result of a political movement with supporters who believe that there isn't enough shooting and killing by civilians of suspicious people. that's why they want these laws. to be able to do this. >> i think that's -- i think that's exactly right. but, you know, a lot of people have put this in a racial context. that when they passed this law in florida in 2005, the opponents said this will allow or give license to racially motivated killings. and so here we are today. >> by the way, those opponents included police chie...