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And engaged illusion polls take things in the polling that this administration, would you like to have more childcare, would you like to have better healthcare for deserving people would you like for everything to be roses and sunny skies, absolutely but if you put in the context of a 5 trillion-dollar expansion of the government and were going to step in and do all kinds of things to put the government in the center of your family, community, your location, our economy, people start to move away from it the affordable care act look like on the surface when they tested abstractions to be enorm...

Normal nih director who usually stays for five or six years. and i've loved it and loved the institution, and it's bittersweet about making this decision. but i think it's time for someone else to step in. and nih is in a very good place right now. amazing leaders in every one of our 27 institutes and centers. nih will be fine. a new person with new vision, that might be a really good thing. >> no question, nih has been doing god's work for a long time. what are you going to do after you retire, dr. collins? how are you going to spend your day? >> i'm going back to my research lab, which i hav...

Whether a man of such deep faith should lead government science. let's bring in elizabeth cohen. this is big news. a., a giant job, b., leaving in still the middle of a chronic pandemic. >> that's right, john, these will be very big shoes to fill at a very difficult time. i was just speaking with dr. anthony fauci about dr. collins. the two men are very close, they've known each other for about 30 years. and dr. fauci talked about his incredible input. the research he's done on cystic fibrosis. on genetics. it's hard to measure the scientific contributions that dr. collins has made over the ye...

And that they've lawyered up and remained silent to this day. >> i mean, you know, he's home for 13 days. his fiancee's reported missing. he comes home with her car, she's not with him and his parents. they don't ask? they don't care? i mean, it doesn't make sense. i'll just say, as a human being, it doesn't make sense but i understand the difference between that and the court of law but i think that's what everyone wants to understand i appreciate your time. it's good to talk to you again. >> thanks, erin. >> okay. next, a group of legal experts want the california bar to investigate a litt...

Stepping down. the timing surprised people. dr. collins kind enough to join us. why now? >> well, neil, you know, you don't want to go out when everybody says oh, my god, thank got the guy is finally leaving. a better idea to to out when people say why now, it's too soon? there's a better reason. 12 years is a long time. no other nih director has stayed even close to that. it's time for new leadership, new vision. institutions need that especially scientific institutions. nih is in a good place. of the 27 institutes that have leaders, i recruited 27 of them so they're good. covid-19 is a huge ...