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Right now? >> well, one of the things i think would be helpful for everyone is if we had intellectual curiosity and intellectual honesty. so those are the facts. i'm not saying that you're going to like them because i'm disappointed also but those are the facts. and as republicans, what are we going to do about building a broad coalition that we can win majorities and get over 270 electoral votes? or do something really big and tremendous, win 49 states like ronald reagan in 1984. that's a mandate. >> secretary brad raffensberger. the new book is "integrity counts." thanks for joining us. and ...

Former vice president. paula reid, thank you very, very much. let's get more on this with georgia's secretary of state brad raffensberger. he has a brand-new book just out entitled "integrity counts." there you see the cover. mr. secretary, thanks for joining us. what's your reaction to the former vice president citing james madison for his decision to stand firmly and not overturn the 2020 presidential election? >> nothing better than james madison, george washington, abraham lincoln, some of our great foundational leaders of our nation. and so that's what i lean into. i lean into the const...

The cancerous kind of lie and conspiracy not just wing anymore but mainstream argument of the republican party. this is not on, you know, the ten of us that voted to impeach. it's not on liz cheney and i to save the republican party. it's on the 190 republicans who haven't said a dang word about it and they put their head in the sand and hoped somebody else comes along and does something. >> joining us now is georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger who was on the receiving end of those lies, as well as threats. also the author of a new book "integrity counts." mr. secretary, appreciate y...

As long as we have personal integrity up and down the line, that's where it really makes it, would. integrity counts, always has, always with. backing those values of honesty, integrity, character and kindness, including the civil discourse in this country. >> "integrity counts," georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger, thank you for writing that and being with us this morning. still ahead -- president biden pushes force leaders for his idea on a green energy plan. but is the u.s. still depending on fossil fuels? can america have it both ways? we'll go live there in a moment. .

New polling shows republicans are driving a major drop in overall election trust in the u.s. the latest nbc news polls say they believe their votes will be counted accurately, 66%. while democrats views are on change, only 5% fewer in independents believe their votes will be counted accurately. joining us now is brad raffensperger, his new book, "integrity counts" is out today. boy, do we need a book like this from a guy like you. you went through this firsthand. >> yes, i did. >> how do we begin to bring back integrity and trust?