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Election year, if they start losing more democrats, watch out. >> i do want to ask you, keeping focus on capitol hill, the top intel guys, national security guys on the hill yesterday obviously. making a very forceful defense of nsa spying programs, very unapologet unapologetic. you have that. they answered a lot of the questions but what happens next in this other controversy and scandal that the white house is dealing with? >> you have a policy track and political track. on the policy track, congress doesn't believe it's gotten straight answers all the time. it was interesting to watch the h...

Well and the two of them, now are deeply entrenched in the fight against american soldiers in afghanistan. what do we do with the folks who are still there, how do we prevent it from happening? >> look, the folks at gitmo always have been for the most part the engine of al qaeda as i called it. they are the leaders, the bomb-makers and the intel guys and the forgers, et cetera. and this cases underscores once again the need for a comprehensive legal framework, legislation defining the rights an privileges of detainees, not only for the guys at gitmo now, but for future catches, we are not capt...

Trump. all right. it's a national tragedy and i really mean this, that the first time we had to get to that interface between the fact bearers, the truth tellers in the intelligence community, as best as they can do in an imperfect world, meeting with this president and his peculiar personality, special personality, was on an issue that other people -- not the intel guys, but other people were using to challenge his legitimacy as president of the united states. and, nicolle, here we are 18 months later and the president is not able to disassociate the threat to his legitimacy over here from th...