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Candidate and other people in his campaign including his campaign manage amplifying what had been done by the russians, rereirritating it, giving it more substance by repeating it. is there any way to tell if that was what they were doing. >> i can't prove that but sometimes the synchronization and taking russians messages that are p out by progressed outlaws and spending them on campaign stumps or using them as talking points was quick. you see stone who says i've heard that last week has something coming out. he's communicated openly with guccifer, which is a russian hacker, why go to a russ...

Whether it could have been totally unwitting? >> i can't prove that. what is remarkable is at times the synchronization and repeatedty taking propaganda and spinning them into campaign stumps or using them as talking points was quick. you see stone who says i've heard wikileaks has something coming out. he communicated openly with guccifer, which is a russian hacker. why go to russian intel operation, why go to russian sites and take their talking points to use against another american? it's curious. there's two parts. is it, one he's complicit and coordinating? i think that's unlikely. maybe ...

[ laughter ] what i'm saying is it's clear in those stories that people working for the obama administration. again, as i have said before, when some bureaucrat in the agriculture department said ketchum was a vegetable, ronald reagan was held responsible. that's what we do with presidents. harry truman's, the buck stops here. this happened on president obama's watch -- >> you've heard those "new york times" articles. i would suggest you go back and read donald trump's tweets because what he alleged is not what you are saying. what he alleged -- what judge napolitano is saying is that this is ...

This happened on barack obama's watch with people in his administration. >> did you read the "new york times" articles? i would suggest you go back and read donald trump's tweets. what he alleged is not what you are saying. what he alleged was judge napolitano is saying. we are not parsing words. we are reading literal tweets from the president of the united states. the judge is doing the exact same thing and his sourcing said that the president of the united states, president obama was running an off the books intel operation using british intelligence and there is no evidence of that. >> cor...

The first public reports of the hacking -- that the hacking of democratic political organizations and the stealing of their documents and e-mails weren't just normal thefts or normal mischief, the first reports that they were a product of a russian intel operation was in mid-june last year. "washington post" first to report that the hack of the dnc was a russian operation. and that public ascribing of responsibility for the hack, naming the russian government as responsible, that may well have kick started the process of russia to start disseminating that stolen information, to start releasing...