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The americans. i'm going to win this one. his approval rating is 80%. humiliating him in public might not work. i think the conversation has to be broader. what is the new approach to russia that includes conversations about iran and syria and can the obama administration do something to put the ball on the tee for the trump campaign? they have to work together and right now it's like two kids in a sand box. disgusting. >> phil makes a lot of good points. he was in the business. he knows the intel world. but this has been politicized. >> totally. >> so, now, because of these implications found...

Blood bath at a university in kenya. 550 others still unaccounted for. some reports say gunmen are separating christians from muslims, killing or capturing the christian students and setting the muslims free. cnn has not independently verified those reports. they're holding hostages at gary sa university college. al shabaab is claiming responsibility for the attack. pill lip mudd is joining me. it's great to see you. unfortunately talking about this what looks like a massively coordinated attack. take us inside the intel world

Talking among our friends. when we hear this term, a lot of chatter going on, what exactly does that mean? >> i sort of -- i really hate that term. it's a term that's been created by politicos that don't do counterterrorism for a living. it's representing that they're seeing things possibly in the intel world, whether in human reporting or in signals intelligence that indicates that there's communications going on and something's being planned. it's not an accurate term. it shouldn't be used. but the reality is they have some sense some sort of attack or some operational planning is going on a...

Public, to us chatter means talking among our friends. when we hear this term, a lot of chatter going on, what exactly does that mean? >> i sort of -- i really hate that term. it's a term that's been created by politicos that don't do counterterrorism for a living. it's representing that they're seeing things possibly in the intel world, whether in human reporting or in signals intelligence that indicates that there's communications going on and something's being planned. it's not alg an accurate term. it shouldn't be used. but it's they have some sort of sense some sort of planning is going o...

Public, to us chatter means talking among our friends. when we hear this term, a lot of chatter going on, what exactly does that mean? >> i sort of -- i really hate that term. it's a term that's been created by politicos that don't do counterterrorism for a living. it's representing that they're seeing things possibly in the intel world, whether in human reporting or in signals intelligence that indicates that there's communications going on and something's being planned. it's not alg an accurate term. it shouldn't be used. but it's they have some sort of sense some sort of planning is going o...