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>> everyone wants to know are they going to finally make progress again towards a trade deal. the president just moments ago said this, quote, plan b with china is taking in billions and billions of dollars with tariffs. actually you know it's the taxpayer that pays those, but he also said and doing less and less business with them. his plan beyond china if no trade deal is doing less and less business with them. is that a good idea even when big ceos like fred smith, the ceo of fedex who's a republican said america is becoming a protectionist country? >> right, i think the first best for ever...

>> well, that requires a good follow-up question, and i think you're right. he's going to try to avoid answering that question, and then the follow-up has to be explain the quote you just read. why can't you exonerate him and explain to us what the evidence is in your report as to why you can't exonerate him. and having him even if it's simply regurgitating the evidence in his report, having him there in front of the american people talking about evidence, talking about why he can't exonerate the president, that will be very valuable. >> listen to house intel chairman adam schiff who is leadin...

Quote, intellectual exercise you guys are engaging in. how can you make economic progress without any political solution? >> reporte >> right, so as you know, poppy, i'm not a politician and i respect those comments. but the thing is if i were, you know, the mayor of a town someplace in gaza or west bank then what i would do is go through our plan and look through the hundreds of projects we talked about, for example, taking the power plant from using diesel fuels and natural gas and start to act on them. they want to have an economy that's worthy of their talents and we've laid out a plan to ...

In some of the practices we convince them to the change i think the president is right. but again don't forget the u.s. sells about as much stuff to china as they sell to us. it's just if you're going to sell stuff to china they kind of make is in china. the president wants to fix that, and if doesn't get fixed he's right about what he's going to do. >> i hear you those are tariffs the americans pay and then you do less and less business with china and that blows up a lot of the business models of american companies but i've got you on a few other things before we go. the federal reserve, we j...

And billions of dollars to the u.s. in fact u.s. importers and consumers paid for that. was he pressed on that issue at all? >> reporter: he wasn't press odthat the way he would have been pressed had he been asked about it on cnn because the president essentially said he has a very different view of the way tariffs work. and that view, of course, has been disputed again and again by top economists and others who say it's the united states, people in the united states who pay in the event of the tariffs placed. >> we also heard the president say, quote, we should be suing google and facebook an...