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Concluded that it was not an urgent matter and that they would try to hide this from congress. tell me why you think that. >> yes. so the question here has always been why exactly the dni was refusing to forward this whistle blowing complaint to the intelligence committees, which is required by law. it's not optional. so the question was what the dni general counsel had said was that they didn't believe that this complaint met the statutory definition, that it wasn't an urgent concern related to an intelligence activity. now, it makes it really, really difficult to imagine that they don't beli...

What do you think of the that? >> it could be legal opinion provided by the attorney general, it could be legal counsel inside the white house, or it could be conversations with the president. the president said don't share it. we simply don't know. >> i mean, you're talking there about the possibilities of what this information could be. one thing has to do with what is going on, intelligence activity. the guidance that has come or the reason that the dni is not releasing that, he says, is because it is not to do with intelligence activity. do you take the dni at that word? >> well, at this p...

Intelligence, they're not he heading an agency, they're overseeing the coordination of the intelligence community. >> right. but, you know, the dni is subject to senate confirmation. so, you know, the only person technically he reports to is the president. i mean, if you want to be literal, i believe, on an organizational chart, the only person above him is the president of the united states. >> asha, what about the rationale for not turning over the complaint. that it doesn't meet the definition of being an urgent concern, that it doesn't actually involve an intelligence activity or somebody ...

Head headening an agency. they're overseeing the coordination of the intelligence community. >> right. but, you know, the dni is subject to senate confirmation. so, you know, the only person technically he reports to is the president. i mean, if you want to be literal, i believe, on an organizational chart, the only person above him is the president of the united states. >> asha, what about the rationale for not turning over the complaint, that it doesn't meet the definition of being an urgent concern, that it doesn't actually involve an intelligence activity or somebody in the intelligence co...

There is a line where they define urgent concern, and it, you know, urgent concern involves a flagrant abuse of power, a problem relating to an intelligence activity that is, dot, dot, dot, within the responsibility and authority of the director of national intelligence. and i believe that's where they got that. however, it seems apparent to me that the inspector general for the intelligence community determined that this was an intelligence community activity within the purview of the odni and, therefore, this was something that, you know, he could take a look at. >> did your sources have any...