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Let's take for the purpose of this conversation his two choices. is there a chance the secretary does not believe the findings of the intelligence community? >> well, she said at the end of that statement that she has no reason to doubt particular intelligence assessments. she's viewed as one of the more professional members of the trump national security cabinet. i think it's entirely likely that david frum's choice of trying to preserve her job, knowing the president is watching, that she can't say certain things on television, is more likely. it's really a shame when you have national secur...

There's some sort of that. >> let's talk kirstjen nielsen, what she said this rn mooing about russian meddling in the 2016 election. we'll play it, then talk about it on the other side, here it is. >> do you have any reason to doubt the january 2017 intelligence community assessment that said it was vladimir putten win who meddled this election? >> i don't believe i've seen that conclusion. >> -- assessment -- >> the specific intent was to help president trump win, i'm not aware of that, but i do generally have no reason to doubt any intelligence assessments. >> that was difficult to hear so i...

American, supporting a certain candidate or supporting a certain message. i think that online promoting of misinformation was something we expected. but when we just heard shimon's reporting there, that certain defendants travelled to the u.s. under false pretenses for the purpose of collecting intel to inform operations, they actually, according to him, some of them went to florida. there were contacts at rallies. i mean, this is detailing an operation that we didn't -- we didn't know about. this is extraordinarily complicated. >> it's a level of detail we have not seen before. intelligence a...

Specifically are you going to be listening for? >> there's some big questions that are driving u.s. foreign policy right now. big intelligence questions. in particular, i'm going to be listening for the latest assessment on how close north korea is to putting a nuclear weapon on a missile that can reach to the united states. as you know, the trump administration has said they are willing to go to war to prevent north korea from gaining that capability. i'll also be listening to what the intelligence chiefs say about whether iran is complying with that obama era nuclear deal which is supposed t...

Would say if you were vladimir putin. >> then he had to walk it all back. by the way, it's not the political appointees who he wants to be upset with who write the intelligence assessments. those were the people who were the good guys. they're the ones that wrote the report. >> i think the thing that's happening here is the president hasn't shown an ability to or willingness to at this point separates as it relates to this overall russia question his own 2016 presidential win, which russia committed, a nefarious act, meddling notice election system here. the president has to move forward to se...