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Clandestined officer in the cia, you saw the explosion in the growth. how did it direct your work? >> the incredible growth of contractors. it's up to 60% of the intelligence budget, which i find unbelievable that so much of the intelligence has been outsourced. calls in the loyalty. who are they loyal to, the government or whoever is writing their paycheck? institutional knowledge is at stake. and the article is -- no one has a grip on what -- who is reporting on what. my former cia colleagues as everyone feels this burden. >> one of the criticisms before

Who care about it, involved with it, this is not news. this is something that we have known since 9/11. it is so unwieldy and bureaucratic that i am afraid that we are not as safe as we should be. >> well, when you served as a clandestine officer in the cia, you saw this explosion in the growth. how did it directly affect your work? >> it comes mostly in the -- on credible growth of contractors. it's now estimated that it's up to 60% of our intelligence budget which i find unbelievable that so much of our core intelligence functions have been outsourced so it calls into question the loyalty. i...

Certain conclusions are drawn. i don't agree with all of her conclusions but i do work in the intelligence community. jon: in the days after 9/11 the nation started to throw money at intelligence trying to figure out who our enemies are and how we can stop them. the quickest way to get that done was to hire a lot of contract agents rather than going through the slow government hiring process, that in the process now you've got a third of the workforce in very sensitive intelligence agencies who do not answer necessarily to the federal government, at least that is the way the concern is describ...

There's the run away, out of control intelligent budget. intelligence budget of tens of billions of dollars. who know where is that money is being spent? what private companies are being given this money. these are the kinds of issues that have to be addressed if we're really talking about dealing with the deficit. i don't think most americans, and the polls show it, most americans feel that this recession, this deficit should be born on the shoulders of those who can least afford it, and those are the unemployed of this kousht tree. >> as we get closer to election day, 106 days, that's a long...