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Diplomat way? we told them and they did it. i think most people in the intelligence business would say that was a different leadership a different time. but these leaderships will turn over. so my point is to you, chuck, it has to be fixed. >> there is no doubt. i guess the question is, who does it? you say new leadership has to do it. speaker ryan just isn't going to do it? if they don't do it what happens? >> it is a failure by speaker ryan. this is extremely important to the country it's right to me -- maybe i'm seeing it too close because i am a former intelligence person but it seems to b...

Most of their life, the voters. they are already skeptical of all of it. >> right. >> the intelligence commune has the black eye of the wmds on their resume. you already have this sort of seated audience ready to believe a conspiracy. >> right. >> how do we get that back? we have the reform the process in congress. what should the intelligence community do to try to win back some credibility? >> i think there are a couple of things you can do on the intelligence side. you are limited. you can go out and advocate for yourself. >> no, that's -- >> you are not a politician. >> right. >> the thing...

The possibility that not a spy, but spies planted by the obama administration into the trump campaign. he says that would be unprecedented, a huge scandal. what is your reaction to that? you used to work over there for the fbi director james comey. >> words matter in the intelligence business and it is important to define our terms. when we compare a spy to an informant, let's look what the we're talking about here. when we talk about a spy, this done injures up images of people in the dark maybe with questionable 340i6s.injures up in the dark maybe with questionable 340i6s. it is illegal in e...

More importantly, i deal with people from other countries every day who are in the intelligence business. most of them know her work. she has worked overseas. like a lot of us. i have known her for ten years and now of her work. she has done a fabulous job. our partners are comfortable having her as the head of the agency. >> harris: all right. senator risch of the great state of idaho. thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> harris: president trump is proving he still has political pull ahead of the mid-term elections. two candidates he supported won the primaries last night. w...

So, i am very glad, i think gina is going to be a breath of fresh air at the agency. so you're going to have somebody there who knows the intelligence business and will not try to give donald trump and senior policy makers what they want in order to continue the basis along these paths. >> i understand what you're saying. thank you for spending time with us. former cia director john brennan, thank you. phil rucker, thank you. when we come back, it's throw back thursday. the vice-president channels a former president as he speaks out on robert mueller.