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The early stages, he's saying this at the very time that now his attorney general, his fired fbi director, his intelligence directors, his former chief strategist, have all sat or plan to sit with mueller in the case of bannon. so this feels very real as a time to give a timeline. >> we are certainly at a point where bob mueller and his team will want to interview the president. they are going to want to circle the target here, they have interviewed everyone they have to get close to him. he doesn't have a lot of other great options other than taking the fifth, which is kind of an unacceptable...

Jumping around, asking james comey to pledge loyalty, firing james comey with jared kushner's push to do so after he didn't do it. asking dni to certify no collusion, asking nsa director to certify no collusion, reaching out to flynn to say strong when he is a person of interest. does that look like obstruction of justice according to the statute, paul butler? >> as a prosecutor, i'm looking at a pattern of conduct. corruptly impede an official proceeding, corruptly means you know what you're doing was wrong. well, you know what you're doing is wrong when you're meeting with the fbi director a...

Troubling. i think it continues a stream of events. i feel a little bit like i have whiplash going from one story to the next. but all of them point to this president trying to interfere in an investigation. i think that we are looking to get to the bottom of this. the question and i think you were discussing it earlier is what kind of informication we get as we look into all of these issues. >> you use the word interference. >> i think if it's true, i believe it is obstruction of justice. we have to prove intent. that is part of the obstruction of justice. but the more we have stories, the mo...

. welcome book. i i am brianna keilar. to the deepening intrigue of possible campaign ties to russia. another incident appears to show that president trump tried to influence the outcome. multiple current and former officials confirm that president trump asked two top intelligence chiefs to publicly deny evidence of cooperation between his campaign and russia. the two intelligence directors, admiral mike rogers and the director of national intelligence, dan coat. director coats would not confirm the story when he went before the house intelligence panel today. >> i have always believed tha...

Campaign trail throughout the 2016 presidential campaign who were presented with this story including far left outlets who refused to run with it because of the lack of credibility. because the intelligence chiefs presented it to donald trump in their first meeting with him, they essentially gave it credibility and therefore it was back into the news. so there is a lot of explaining to do but the silver lining is donald trump will be in office later this week and he will have his own appointees rather than these political point east from obama to further perpetuate the narrative. >> shannon: t...