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Troops were going to engage the enemy in space, the chinese and the russians have developed anti-satellite capabilities. we have to watch out for what they and other rivals are going to be doing in space and we depend on space for communications, for our intelligence efforts. and also for our military operations. so there are a lot of aspects to this that make a lot of sense. and it's going to require a concerted effort to actually get this done and to create a service is one way to do that. >> colonel, always good to have your insight. >> you bet, victor. any time. coming up, a holiday gift...

Exposing of the sources and methods of how we found out it's isis, it's clearly going to up set some of our intelligence efforts. >> the bob, the fact the response is fairly muted a couple videoing claims responsibility. does that surprise you? would you be expecting to hear more from them publicly if they were the ones that brought down the plane? >> anderson, i would. i would think they would consider this a great victory bringing down a russian airplane. they are at war with russia and been bombed. what i would have expected at this point is the islamic state to come out and say look, we to...

Damage our ability to be able to pursue our intelligence efforts. >> shannon: what kind of investigation if any do you you think should be launched into how this information was released. >> a big one. this leak is serious. this leak essentially -- first of all, the operation was closely held. it was cia, fbi, homeland security and tsa. a limited number of people knew about it. general grow would hav procedue chairman and vice chairman of each of the intelligence committees briefed during the attack or prior to it. this was not the case. there was is no briefing. apparently the leak came to an...

. >> jamie: our whole efforts is to try to get individuals that can provide intelligence and work with us and to be able to do that and do that effectively, you have to protect these people and you have to protect the confidence and the classification and the covert nature of this kind of work and when these leaks take place, i can't tell you how much they damage our ability to be able to pursue our intelligence efforts. >> paul: that's defense secretary leon panetta, addressing the leak of information to divulge a plot on a plane one years anniversary of the death of osama bin laden. and a mo...

Damage our ability to be able to pursue our intelligence efforts. >> shannon: what kind of investigation if any do you you think should be launched into how this information was released. >> a big one. this leak is serious. this leak essentially -- first of all, the operation was closely held. it was cia, fbi, homeland security and tsa. a limited number of people knew about it. general grow would hav procedue chairman and vice chairman of each of the intelligence committees briefed during the attack or prior to it. this was not the case. there was is no briefing. apparently the leak came to an...