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Intelligence failures. what's your view of what actually has happened here? >> you know, with every criticism that's made after the incident, after the president has praised the behavior of law enforcement, it doesn't mean that we don't have oversight. that's not to say that there was something that they should have done that they did not do, but it is to say that they have to learn from whatever they didn't do that they wish they had done. >> i'm thinking specifically of tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to t dagestan for six months last year having already triggered concerns and the russian authoriti...

Intelligence failures, they seem to be growing worse by the day. lot to get to tonight, including word that the suspects' mother says she will travel to the u.s. to see her son after all and tonight, word that the fbi searched the home of the older brother's widow. also, statements confirming the female dna was discovered on a fragment of the pressure cooker bombs. what could that mean? we'll get to all that later. then there's this. the criminal defense attorney who represented the unabomber, olympic park bomber and jared loughner, gabby giffords' shooter, now represents dzhokhar tsarnaev. ...

They say without question. so from your perspective, what is the relationship in terms of sharing intelligence between the united states and russia? >> the relationship is complicated and difficult. we know that the russians in the past have listed people on terror lists that were not terrorists for political reasons. concerning the boston marathon bombers, they gave us a good tip. in this instance it was the united states that is probably guilty of intelligence failures. it was not the russians that did something wrong. >> heather: do you think that that the allegedly lack of trust with russi...

Country, not once but twice and letting the c.i.a. know, do we really care about civil liberties for this person? >> i think there is two intelligence failures. first of all the intelligence community is too large and second one, i think it has to go over the controversy of bush administration to purchase see terrorist suspects, there has been a chilling effect on u.s. intelligence agencies to use all the tools available to them because they are worried about being prosecuted are held before congress or losing their job. i have met with intelligence directors who have told me in certain instan...

This bubbling conversation about intelligence failures, were they there, some of this feels like it's an actual bubbling political controversy that's happening and some of it feels like grandstanding. where is the line here? where is this headed? >> part of both. we're talking about benghazi and hillary clinton because of 2016. >> house report came out the other day about what did hillary know or not know about security in benghazi. >> you'll see companies and security firms start to take advantage of this in terms of getting appropriations and making their case that no one is talking about te...