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And military and the intelligence field, they're staffed by mostly career folks who stay there year in and year out no matter who the president is, ultimately all those agencies really do in a specific way answer to the president. and in a certain reductive way all of the intelligence agencies in the unite, this multizillion dollar apparatus we've got, it all exists specifically to provide information to one person, to the president, to steal secrets about the world, to steal secrets from other countries in order to help the president make high level decisions that no one else is empowered to ...

Tonight, new book by a legendary former abc anchor ted koppel called lights out. cyber attack. a nation unprepared. surviving the aftermath. with us now is mr. koppel. that title is scary. can you back it up. >> yeah. as you know, bill, reporters don't necessarily know a hell of a lot about the actual subject until they start talking to the experts. i talked to experts in the military, in the intelligence field. in the industry itself. and the vast preponderance of them believe this is not only a possibility but a likelihood. >> some nation, russia, putin, china, maybe even the terrorists, the...

Vocal talking about the nsa and protecting fourth amendment rights. this parser this effort is oregon democratic senator ron white. >> vigorous oversight on the intelligence field needs to get more attention. something we have both talk about, liberty and security is not mutually exclusive. >> congress says the reaction to this report may not be as vocal, but we will be listening to see what they have to say about this panel assessment and the detailed recommendation. eric: a fedex plane was forced to make a landing about 5:00 a.m.

Surrounding the obama administration's leak of america's top cia agent in afghanistan, democrats in washington they have been noticeably silent. however just often years ago when a republican was in the white house they were singing a very different tune when journalist bob novak released the name of former cia employee, by the way not an operative, valerie plame. you may remember this. >> she didn't ask that her identity be revealed but it was repeatedly. and that was an breach of the responsibilities our country owes to her. >> members of the administration have broken the law by disclosing ...

Have it. >> do we believe the fbi at this point will be able to retrieve the deleted files? >> well, that is an unknown right now, just like so many other things relative to this airplane, megyn. but you know, nobody has the capabilities that the united states has when it comes to do something like that. and as i say, they're not going to sleep until they complete this process. >> based on -- >> i'm confident that they're going to be able to. >> based on your conversations in the intelligence field. and obviously you're talking to people who are actually in the know, do you believe at this poi...