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And no matter how explosive the charge, it is supposed to, if it's working correctly, bubble up and make its way to the appropriate audience. and in this case, in this rare case, a first in the memory of veterans on capitol hill, this case has been blocked from being heard, correct? >> that's right. so far, the director of national intelligence, the nation's top intelligence official, is refusing to disclose details about this whistle-blower complaint, saying essentially that there are other equities here, that this involves the communications of somebody who is not -- who doesn't work for me ...

Deputy labor secretary. clint watts, and elise jordan who worked in the state house. people are going to say this is purely political. this is all about the deep state out to get the president, in your mind, what kind of information, what kind of conversation, would have been had that would prompt this kind of whistle blowing? >> i can't imagine anything that wasn't bad. we have seen how the fallout from it is. i can't believe that an intelligence official, it has to be someone at a very high level, they have to have been concerned to such a level to want to bring this complaint, and i'm sure ...

It's working correctly, bubble up and make its way to the appropriate audience. and in this case, in this rare case, a first in the memory of veterans on capitol hill, this case has been blocked from being heard, correct? >> that's right. so far, the director of national intelligence, the nation's top intelligence official, is refusing to disclose details about this whistle-blower complaint, saying essentially that there are other equities here, that this involves the communications of somebody who is not -- who doesn't work for me basically. so that has led to some speculation that this might...

President is entitled to promise any foreign leader almost anything and that wouldn't be problematic to an intelligence official unless some underlying misconduct, something sinister about it. it's pointless to speculate. the bottom line, though, is the question now whether the intelligence community is trying to oversee -- the committee trying to oversee and going to get the information that they need to review this and decide whether there was misconduct. >> so today, it's the inspector general of the ic coming in to talk behind closed doors. next week, robert, it's going to be the actual ac...

And someone has exposed something important or someone. and, again, i just think it's stunning we have an acting dni, we have an acting department of homeland security secretary. we have -- we've had -- i mean -- >> acting secretary of defense and acting national security -- >> it just sounds lawless to me. >> well, also you can't separate the way we started from where we are now. we started about talking whether or not we are marching to war with iran. the dni was created after 9/11 to create the stream of intelligence. we've now got questions of an inspector general report being held from co...