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Samantha. as you mentioned, he was -- he was on the transition executive committee. he was a transition official, don jr. was. and he never joined the administration. in that regard, does that in any way inoculate the president from any wrongdoing that don jr. would be part of? >> i don't think that we know yet. and i'll leave that part to the special counsel. i do think that, again, it's clear, the russian government launched a very successful intelligence operation. they tried to target members of the campaign, mess of the transition team, and we're now finding out that senior members from b...

Russia and had dealings with the russian security police, fsb. this is a case of the russians using oddly enough their soft power which is americans' interests in guns. and using that to develop contacts, make contacts with people ostensibly out of a joint mutual interest in shooting weapons, but in fact sometimes there is something behind that which leads to an intelligence operation. >> so jared kushner was e-mailed from alexander tortian, was asked to have an official to attend the event. these e-mails were not disclosed from jared kushner. how much trouble couldfeezly be in? >> it is a cri...

>> mud is saying they only needed dirt. yeah. i'm halfway there with john. regardless whether you think they orchestrated this as an intelligence operation. he said nothing illegal happened here. that's not the point. even if they heard about the meeting afterwards, that a political player, the potential president is willing to accept dirt from hostile foreign intelligence power. if you got that message in moscow, the lesson might be let me direct my intelligence resources to collect information so that i can feed that into a campaign. i don't care if that's legal or not, that's not what we wa...

Petersburg today. he did not get answers about why exactly they held that meeting. originally the banker said it was for business purposes, but the administration has repeatedly said it was just trying to open some diplomatic actions. back to putin, he's saying a kid could have engineered the hack on the election. >> it's just the perfect troll-like behavior. vladimir putin is certainly taking pleasure in the chaos it's created. katy, what i learned from working in this sphere for four years with the fbi and the russian intelligence, the number one priority of any intelligence agency is not at...

Address, but as long as you're addressing those, you're not able to focus on the mission. so, it really impacts focus. it's part of the environment we work in. and so, we're good at it, but it really is an unnecessary distraction. and it's better if that kind of thing doesn't happen for the intelligence community. it really is. >> and naveed, when this happened, it's not that donald trump, you know, gave away basically an intelligence operation that we were working on, it was the israeli's information, not ours to give out, in that oval office meeting. what did you make of it when h.r. mcmaste...