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To fight terror around the world? what needs to change? cia trained intelligence operative colonel shafer. we start with the big question. what needs to change and what needs to change right away? >> governor cuomo is wrong. it is not a lone wolf. how many lone wolves do you need to see it is a pattern here? this is a known isis captain. we need to look at this both ways, look at what we could have prevented, what we could have done more to stop this, why this guy was here. donald trump is correct regarding his vetting program. this guy's name, his first name in islamic is the sword of allah. ...

And a russian lawyer. it was specifically about adoptions. then, after he released his e-mails, we found out that donald trump jr.'s intent about going to this meeting was to gather negative information about hillary clinton that was gathered by the russian government. last night, we find out that there was this russian lobbyist there, someone who senator chuck grassley has said has ties to russian intelligence, also calling him an intelligence operative. in his defense, the russian lobbyist has said, he has no ties to the kgb or russian intelligence. despi despite that, the president's attorn...

Ways of washington, and not what we think of as an intelligence operative. he was in milita intelligence. and that tends to be things like how many tanks does the other side have, what is the weather going to be tomorrow. it is not doing dead drops at post office boxes in the woods in the middle of the night. a few years ago i helped a piece that he wrote, actually a young officer wrote and he endorsed. it was very good piece about how to revive military intelligence in afghanistan. and i helped get that published. and i think that made general flynn more prominent in washington, and he rose u...

Tell us about your history with michael flynn and how you helped bring him the kind of attention that actually pushed him up the ladder. >> let me be clear. i don't think general flynn is actually a monster. i think he is a rather naive guy, not really educated in the ways of washington, and not what we think of as an intelligence operative. he was in military intelligence. and that tends to be things like how many tanks does the other side have, what is the weather going to be tomorrow. it is not doing dead drops at post office boxes in the woods in the middle of the night. a few years ago i ...

We're joined now by thomas rick, contributing editor at foreign policy magazine and author of the new book "churchill & orwell: the fight for freedom." you are also the author of a piece toward the end of last year asking did i help create a monster, and you were with that monster on the day that he was fired in the white house. tell us about your history with michael flynn and how you helped bring m thkif attention at actually pushed him up the ladder. >> let me be clear. i don't think general flynn is actually a monster. i think he is a rather naive guy, not really educated in the ways of wa...