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Times that the situation was dangerous on the ground in benghazi, that they had had the warnings before. so the state department, essentially, is saying we don't want congress to have this baton to hit us over the head, not in so many words -- martha: right. >> -- with these warnings that the cia had had. i just want to point out one more thing about hillary clinton and her testimony. martha: yeah. >> she says in her testimony on capitol hill, it was an intelligence product, about the talking points. the intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into the talking points, ...

>> well, congressman, i was not involved in the so-called talking points process. my understanding is it was a typical process trying to get to the best information available. it was an intelligence product. they are as i again understand it working with their committees of jurisdiction to try to unpack that, but i will say that all of the senior administration officials including ambassador rice who spoke publicly to this terrible incident had the same information from the intelligence community. >> if i might interject. i appreciate your response so far, but if you're not familiar with any c...

From at least their understanding that it was not true, that it was fault. and in many ways, susan rice can only say so much, based on what she does know. that is why perhaps we are not getting the full story that we would want to get from her. >> but also when you understand the procedure here and what it takes to unmask the name, might they be incriminating themselves? i want to bring in philip mudd? as ambassador might they incriminate themselves if they unmask the name? >> this is not that complicated, she is not under risk. this is how you do that information, that is when you see an inte...

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