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We saw indications, public and private, of what he was preparing to do. and so we undertook a very aggressive effort, publicly and privately, directly with him and his cohorts, but also with our other allies to make sure that this did not happen. because the implications of it are very robust, very negative for our national security interests. and what this intelligence shows, what we've debated and what we've briefed and nobody has debated or rebutted is that he did it. >> before you go, i want to allow you to respond to some criticism that has come from the right, a consistent critic, column...

Docket. i was sitting in the national security council staff at that time. we saw indications, public and private, of what he was preparing to do. and so we undertook a very aggressive effort, publicly and privately, directly with him and his cohorts, but also with our other allies to make sure that this did not happen. because the implications of it are very robust, very negative for our national security interests. and what this intelligence shows, what we've debated and what we've briefed and nobody has debated or rebutted is that he did it. >> before you go, i want to allow you to respond ...

An authorization to use force here. i don't think it is in america's interest. i don't think we should in effect take sides in the syrian conflict. there's very little to recommend either side to me and i think the notion that a limited strike which is what the president seems to be pursuing will not create a deterrent effect with respect to either to syria's use of chemical weapons or more seriously, iran's nuclear weapons program. so all in all, since i don't see any utility to, to the use of military force in syria in this context, i would vote no. now the argument that the administration m...

Quite a bit of carnage and if they could get in their hands any type of nuclear device or dirty bomb they certainly could but the point i was making it's much more spread out and have someone like al qaeda -- i'm sorry, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap working on implanting bombs in people's body, we could have very significant -- just not small amounts of people, not 3,000 like 9/11 but still very large. >> with regard to the timing we've been looking to today, august 4th as being the day something would happen. here we are now into the afternoon east coast time even further into the d...

Iran. >> they at least now agree that containment is not a policy, the united states and israel are aligned and iran cannot go in and clear. the president said this before but he said it in the oval office. he said it publicly. said it at the state of the union. he made it very forceful, that's a commitment. they are in -- grave disagreement over how long one can wait. what the intelligence shows. the u.s. position is that the intelligence will let us know when iran makes the decision to build a weapon and that once that happens, we have a full year before we have to take military action. isra...