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18 separate contacts we now know of between the trump campaign and russia, primary adversary in the world -- >> and superpower. >> in october, the collective judgment of the 17 intelligence agencies had been that russia had been taking active measures to interfere in our elections. quite a difference. we don't think iran was doing that. we knew that was happening in october. so in december, the now president-elect decides he's going to name james mattis to be his secretary of defense. he doesn't open a back channel. he sends his real estate developer son-in-law, supposedly, decides to open thi...

See it. >> i'm certain, whenever you see what's called the leaking of information, it is probably done strategically. it could be done under some guise of threat. there could be communications bift happens. what you're referring to, wasn't communication before hand but i'm sure whoever is behind it has to be thinking of how to get maximum impact based on timing. >> you brought up 1996 was the first time you knew that russians were trying to do this. i've had intelligence sources tell me for years, look. there are other countries. while the chinese throw a lot at this, the russians have been mu...

It weakens our national security for two reasons. it makes it more difficult for the troops overseas to find the critical muslim allies, translators, intelligence sources, who put their trust in us to give us information about the terrorists. the new executive order makes it much harder for our troops to work with them. the second reason is that isis and other terrorist organizations will use this executive order, regardless of what the president or the secretary of homeland security says about it, they'll use this executive order to aid in this -- their recruiting to further the idea that the...

Trump administration unless the media treats it like it's significant. we hear all kinds of things, i've heard all sorts of things about barack obama's romantic life. i hope they are not true. i would never report on that. isn't it irresponsible to pass on something that you can't verify? i don't know how you don't see that as a journalist. >> "the new york times," "the washington post," some of the leading journalist organizations routinely write stories that are based on information that they haven't verified. "the new york times" verified all the information that was in all the emails that ...

Think for the president-elect to have this healthy skepticism about the intel. they have gotten things wrong. weapons of mass destruction was not a slam dunk in iraq. isis was not a jv team. all of that came from intelligence sources. i think everybody should sort of calm down a little bit. wait and see what happens. let him get the briefings. >> bret: we just heard that they report is done. he will be -- the president will be briefed tomorrow. the intelligence officials will go to the president-elect on friday. >> this is going to be the fault line where trump could get into real trouble with...